Monday, May 6, 2013

Lady Macbeth: Feminist dream or psycho wife?

You've read a couple of scenes with Lady Macbeth - now, with a partner, decide what she is really like...

16 comments:

  1. In Our Opinion, we think that she is an independent woman, who is pretty crazy. She wants Macbeth to fulfill his destiny to be King, by any means necessary. She is a strong woman which is not seen too often in the earlier days. Except her motives not in good morals. She gets angry on page 41, when Macbeth is having doubts about the assassination. She wants him to do it, she really does want him to kill the King. So to conclude, she is an independent woman crazed by a plan to kill the King.

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  2. In our opinion, we think that she is an independent woman, who is pretty crazy. She wants Macbeth to fulfill his destiny to be King, by any means necessary. She is a strong woman which is not seen too often in the earlier days. Except her motives not in good morals. She gets angry on page 41, when Macbeth is having doubts about the assassination. She wants him to do it, she really does want him to kill the King. So to conclude, she is an independent woman crazed by a plan to kill the King.

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  3. While Lady Macbeth has good intentions, she often lets her ideas get out of hand. Her good intentions can appear greedy or spiteful, even if they’re not. In Act 1, Scene 5, lines 40-50, Lady Macbeth has read her husband’s letter and is asking that the witches fill her with wickedness. She knows that Macbeth is too good to murder Duncan, so she takes it upon herself to do so. She knows it will also be difficult for her to carry out the murder, so she asks the witches to fill her with evil and numb her consciousness. She wants her husband to succeed, but it often seems that she just wants to be in power.

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  4. She isn't a feminist dream because, typically a feminist's goal is to get rights for women. She isn't trying to do that at all. She wants her husband to be the public figure of power, but she wants to rule from behind the scenes, and she is willing to commit murder to get this. As Macbeth re-evaluates the plan to kill King Duncan, she quickly convinces him that that is what has to happen. She is using Macbeth as a puppet so she can rule freely. She can tell Macbeth to do whatever she wants, but if one of the decisions goes wrong, then he will get blamed.

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  5. In our opinion, Lady Macbeth is a psycho wife. Although she may seem like a feminist dream for taking control and telling Macbeth how to handle the situation, Lady Macbeth is psycho for thinking that the witches could run her life. Lady Macbeth states after Macbeth had said that he will not go as far as to kill the King,"... And live a coward in thine own esteem, Letting 'I dare not' wait upon 'I would,' Like the poor cat i' th' adage?" This shows us that she would go as far as to taunt her husband into changing his mind to kill the king, for she is calling him a wimp for being scared to kill the King (a.k.a coward). Do the ends justify the means?

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  6. While Lady Macbeth has good intentions, she often lets her ideas get out of hand. Her good intentions can appear greedy or spiteful, even if they’re not. In Act 1, Scene 5, lines 40-50, Lady Macbeth has read her husband’s letter and is asking that the witches fill her with wickedness. She knows that Macbeth is too good to murder Duncan, so she takes it upon herself to do so. She knows it will also be difficult for her to carry out the murder, so she asks the witches to fill her with evil and numb her consciousness. She wants her husband to succeed, but it often seems that she just wants to be in power.

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  7. She isn't a feminist dream because, typically a feminist's goal is to get rights for women. She isn't trying to do that at all. She wants her husband to be the public figure of power, but she wants to rule from behind the scenes, and she is willing to commit murder to get this. As Macbeth re-evaluates the plan to kill King Duncan, she quickly convinces him that that is what has to happen. She is using Macbeth as a puppet so she can rule freely. She can tell Macbeth to do whatever she wants, but if one of the decisions goes wrong, then he will get blamed.

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  8. In our opinion, lady Macbeth is a psycho wife. You can see this in the Act 1 scene 7 on page 43. Macbeth is talking to Lady Macbeth about not going through with the assassination. She completely loses it. MACBETH "If we fail-" LADY MACBETH "But screw your courage to the sticking place and we will not fail!" She only wants him to become king just so she could be come queen. She is manipulating him calling him a coward and calling him not a man. I (Ben) personally think that if she wants it so badly then she should kill him. She is the coward because she is the person trying to get someone else to do their dirty work. She is so blinded by her desires she is forgetting all the consequences if she gets caught.

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  9. We believe that Lady Macbeth is psychotic because she wishes for King Duncan to die so that Macbeth can be king, and her queen. Throughout the course of scene 5 she read Macbeth's letter and realizes that Macbeth is too soft and weak to kill the king. She calls on magic/ supernatural powers to fill her "from the crown to the toe top-full Of direst cruelty". She asks for the evil and strength to kill the king herself. In his letter Macbeth says that she is his partner. She sees the power that the witches predicted for him, and believes that if he takes the throne, she will have the power and royalty of a queen. She calls Macbeth a coward because he won't carry out the malicious deed. Also, in order to remove the claim of the heir, they will need to eliminate Malcolm, Duncan's son and heir, to fully have the throne. Her lust for power does signify a desire for power as a woman, but this doesn't necessarily mean that she wants to empower feminism and women in that time period.

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  10. Charlie and I believe that Lady Macbeth is psychotic because she is trying to persuade her husband to kill the humble king, hoping that Macbeth will be crowned next. She realizes that Macbeth is too soft and weak to kill the king after reading his letter in Scene 5, so she calls on supernatural powers to fill her "from the crown to the toe-top Of direst cruelty." She has to ask for the evil and strength to kill the king herself, which shows us two things. One, she is insane. She's asking for evil spirits to assist her, nobody in their right mind would ask for that. Two, standing alone she is not as powerful and independent as she seems in the next two scenes, which leads us to the 'feminist dream.'
    Charlie and I do not think Lady Macbeth is a feminist dream. Just because she wishes for empowerment doesn't make her a a feminist icon. Her intentions are greedy and selfish, so while she does have a lust for power it is not for women in society, but solely for her family. While the evil powers she called upon make her stronger and independent, she is not a feminist dream.

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  11. In our opinion, lady Macbeth is a psycho wife. You can see this in the Act 1 scene 7 on page 43. Macbeth is talking to Lady Macbeth about not going through with the assassination. She completely loses it. MACBETH "If we fail-" LADY MACBETH "But screw your courage to the sticking place and we will not fail!" She only wants him to become king just so she could be come queen. She is manipulating him calling him a coward and calling him not a man. I (Ben) personally think that if she wants it so badly then she should kill him. She is the coward because she is the person trying to get someone else to do their dirty work. She is so blinded by her desires she is forgetting all the consequences if she gets caught.

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  12. Lady Macbeth has some feminist ideals but deep down, she is psychotic with mental issues. Lady Macbeth is not only Macbeth's wife but she is his equal. "My dearest my partner of greatness..." Macbeth addresses his wife (17). Though Lady Macbeth may seem like a strong independent woman in a time where that was not much appreciated, but she has some serious
    flaws. For example, she is slightly psychotic because she is bent on killing the king even though it is morally wrong. Her husband even advises her against this, yet she still does not stop her madness.

    Notes
    -good intentions? She wanted her husband to be strong
    -She wants to help her husband find strength when he doesn't believe he has enough
    -seems greedy and spiteful
    -When her husband refuses to kill Duncan she shames him and calls a coward and a weak man
    -Do the ends justify the means? (Goal: Macbeth becoming king)
    1.shame
    2.guilt
    3.develops the plan mostly by herself
    -doesn't think that Macbeth would actually kill the king
    -"vessel" for him
    ***Is this a half hazard plan? Doesn't seem like they have taken into account a variety of details.

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  13. Flora and Hannah Goldstein

    Lady Macbeth is a cunning, very psycho wife. She tells her husband, "That which cries 'Thus thou must do,' if thou have it..." (31). She is trying to explain to him that if you want something, you have to work for it. Accomplishments won't be handed to you on a silver platter. Lady Macbeth and her husband both want the throne. The differences are noticeable regarding how they both plan on getting there. Referring to the future murder of Duncan, Lady Macbeth proclaim, "O'never shall sun that morrow see!" Lady Macbeth, without a doubt, is willing to go to the extremes.

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  14. In our opinion, Lady Macbeth is a psycho wife. Although she may seem like a feminist dream for taking control and telling Macbeth how to handle the situation, Lady Macbeth is psycho for thinking that the witches could run her life. Lady Macbeth states after Macbeth had said that he will not go as far as to kill the King,"... And live a coward in thine own esteem, Letting 'I dare not' wait upon 'I would,' Like the poor cat i' th' adage?" This shows us that she would go as far as to taunt her husband into changing his mind to kill the king, for she is calling him a wimp for being scared to kill the King (a.k.a coward). Do the ends justify the means?

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  15. Flora and Hannah Goldstein

    Lady Macbeth is a cunning, very psycho wife. She tells her husband, "That which cries 'Thus thou must do,' if thou have it..." (31). She is trying to explain to him that if you want something, you have to work for it. Accomplishments won't be handed to you on a silver platter. Lady Macbeth and her husband both want the throne. The differences are noticeable regarding how they both plan on getting there. Referring to the future murder of Duncan, Lady Macbeth proclaim, "O'never shall sun that morrow see!" Lady Macbeth, without a doubt, is willing to go to the extremes.

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  16. Although Lady Macbeth has some feminist ideals, but deep down,she is also psychotic, with mental issues.Lady Macbeth is a feminist because, she is not only Macbeth's wife but she is his equal. "My dearest my partner of greatness..." As Macbeth addresses his wife (17). Though Lady Macbeth may seem like a strong independent woman in a time where that was not much appreciated, she has some serious
    flaws. For example, she is slightly psychotic because she is bent on killing the king, even though it is morally wrong. Her husband even advises her against this, yet, she still does not stop her madness.

    Notes
    -good intentions? She wanted her husband to be strong
    -She wants to help her husband find strength when he doesn't believe he has enough
    -seems greedy and spiteful
    -When her husband refuses to kill Duncan she shames him and calls a coward and a weak man
    -Do the ends justify the means? (Goal: Macbeth becoming king)
    1.shame
    2.guilt
    3.develops the plan mostly by herself
    -doesn't think that Macbeth would actually kill the king
    -"vessel" for him
    ***Is this a half hazard plan? Doesn't seem like they have taken into account a variety of details.

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